tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688274121226963086.post5611446483014467810..comments2023-10-22T23:29:48.012+13:00Comments on O Audacious Book: Tuesday Poem: Nuptials by Bill ManhireUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688274121226963086.post-68155146984599408492010-06-20T16:10:31.166+12:002010-06-20T16:10:31.166+12:00Just catching up with some blog reading and had a ...Just catching up with some blog reading and had a look at these comments. I understand where "anonymous" was coming from.<br /><br />Ive also been disappointed to notice a luke warm response from the TP hub, to certain of our own heavyweight poets. Is it intimidation? Or envy?<br /><br />BTW I commented on the actual Tuesday Poem blog post, and also responded on facebook, so the lack of comments here doesn't mean there was a poor initial response to Bill's poem at all.The Paradoxical Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10100658773584057280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688274121226963086.post-88527732685036171572010-06-17T06:50:23.836+12:002010-06-17T06:50:23.836+12:00So gracious of you, Mary, to provide a clarificati...So gracious of you, Mary, to provide a clarification. Regarding whether or not I play an instrument: yes, the piano. And I used to sing soprano in several choirs. Hence, my strong affinity for music. In the early days of my poetry writing, when I had a lot of questions, someone told me that "poetry is the sister of song." That was a definitive, liberating moment for me, when poetry "clicked" in my mind and I began trusting my ear, the same way I did when checking pitch and harmony. So imagine my glee when I read Bill Manhire's poem and your account re: his style and musical background.<br /><br />Cheers.S.L. Corsuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10299376651709536034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688274121226963086.post-67639558233865713672010-06-16T23:52:52.995+12:002010-06-16T23:52:52.995+12:00Anon - meant to say, S.L. is right - the bulk of t...Anon - meant to say, S.L. is right - the bulk of the comments are over on the main Tuesday Poem blog - www.tuesdaypoem.blogspot.com do check them out, there's a lot of excitement about the poem there especially among the US poets. Just a few loyal Audacious Book followers have commented here... Thank you, Anon, for your comment re. the Naked Horse and for enjoying Nuptials so much.Mary McCallumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07482261103185786111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688274121226963086.post-39438680849315909472010-06-16T23:46:06.769+12:002010-06-16T23:46:06.769+12:00Thank you S.L. - I love your reactions to poetry, ...Thank you S.L. - I love your reactions to poetry, they are so physical and often aural. Do you play an instrument yourself? And you are right the complex sadness of the separation pulls against the musicality of the piece - and against the banality of some of the language, too. The tension works doesn't it? It's even shown in the poem's shape on the page. [By the way - apparently this poem has been put to music just recently and will be performed in September! just heard this). <br /><br />Regarding the comment by Anonymous - I think 'these sorts of things' means the politics of NZ writing where some writers are seen to be beyond reproach - or praise, even. That perhaps NZers don't praise our leading poets because it smacks of the commentator trying to get onside with the famous poet .... I guess both these things are possible. I do know it is hard to criticise the work of fellow writers here because we are such a small country and are bound to know the person in one capacity or another - causing problems all round. At the same time, I don't know where trenchant criticism takes you. I prefer to accentuate the positive instead and review the writers I like...<br /><br />Sorry you got all tied up in knots, Rachel, working out which side you were on. And great that you decided not to care and came out with it. In the end, that's what Anon was saying - how wonderful it was that you S.L. just came out and candidly said what you said. <br /><br />Oh I love that comment Rachel re being a 'scrap of a scribbler'! You're right good writing tutors are like gold to the writer...Mary McCallumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07482261103185786111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688274121226963086.post-7649903939253889492010-06-16T22:27:55.199+12:002010-06-16T22:27:55.199+12:00I'm also intrigued, but not by the perceived l...I'm also intrigued, but not by the perceived lack of a "flurry of comments" regarding Bill Manhire's poem <b>because the comments appear in the Tuesday Poem site where said poem is currently featured</b>. I'm intrigued by what "sort of things" Anonymous refers to in the statement "And then this lovely note from the Phillipines - which is a pretty good example of how good poetry transcends these sort of things."S.L. Corsuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10299376651709536034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688274121226963086.post-13935729768359499112010-06-16T21:36:35.871+12:002010-06-16T21:36:35.871+12:00I like the poem, too! Lol.I like the poem, too! Lol.Rachel Fentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10046917627054462214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688274121226963086.post-73698250678457806592010-06-16T21:35:15.612+12:002010-06-16T21:35:15.612+12:00Now that Anonymous has commented I wonder do I loo...Now that Anonymous has commented I wonder do I look like I am sucking up or that I look like I am worried to be perceived as trying too hard to look like I am not sucking up by inadvertently sucking up? <br /><br />I like the peom very much - only just discovered Bill's poetry and am blissfully ignorant of any criticism - against or upwardly sucking - of it.<br /><br />Thanks for posting this!<br /><br />I had a wonderful creative writing tutor, too, but he died and I cannot mention him for fear of looking like I am using his name without his say so to further myself but he said encouraging and memorable lovely things about my writing and it makes a huge difference to a scrap of a scribbler with the torn corner of a paper dream. You were/are lucky, Mary.Rachel Fentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10046917627054462214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688274121226963086.post-82865291108914145932010-06-16T20:06:50.537+12:002010-06-16T20:06:50.537+12:00I'm intrigued - usually such a flurry of comme...I'm intrigued - usually such a flurry of comments - but this is Bill's poetry and are we afraid to be seen to be "sucking up" to the creative master/guru, or what? It's such a cool poem and Mary's write-up about the declining Horse is so good - the whole idea about "what makes good poetry". But Bill is sort of right up there - so silence. And then this lovely note from the Phillipines - which is a pretty good example of how good poetry transcends these sort of things - (I give in, I give in) - such a good response, don't you think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-688274121226963086.post-85131853451226002242010-06-16T10:47:40.208+12:002010-06-16T10:47:40.208+12:00It's an aural experience to remember. Even whe...It's an aural experience to remember. Even when the content speaks of separation, the musicality of his lines dares me not to grin happily (I give in, I give in).<br /><br />Thanks for sharing this, Mary. It's a gem.S.L. Corsuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10299376651709536034noreply@blogger.com